Podcast Hosts Fear Trump Will Be Surpassed by More 'Diabolical' Successor

Co-hosts of 'I've Had It' podcast warn of a younger, more ideologically committed Republican politician on the horizon.

Published on Feb. 14, 2026

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The co-hosts of the "I've Had It" podcast voiced concerns that there may be a "diabolical" conservative politician on the horizon who is more effective and committed to the cause than former President Donald Trump. They worry that Trump's successor could be "younger" and "more diabolical" than Trump, potentially citing Vice President JD Vance as an example.

Why it matters

The concerns raised by the podcast hosts highlight the ongoing debates and uncertainty around the future of the Republican party and who might emerge as the next influential conservative leader, especially as Trump's political influence potentially wanes.

The details

The podcast hosts criticized Trump's second term, saying he has failed to fulfill many of his campaign promises. They are now focused on anticipating what comes after Trump, worrying that his successor could be "smarter" and "more diabolical" in pursuing a conservative agenda, potentially citing Vice President JD Vance as an example.

  • Trump is currently serving his second term as president.

The players

Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

Co-host of the "I've Had It" podcast.

Jennifer Welch

Co-host of the "I've Had It" podcast.

JD Vance

The current Vice President, cited by the podcast hosts as an example of a potentially more "diabolical" conservative politician on the horizon.

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What they’re saying

“Trump is no spring chicken, and he's a lame duck. So what is next? And that's why I'm so open-minded and analytical about my own political beliefs and the errors of my own ways. And I constantly want to be an evolving political thinker in this time, because the news is coming at us fast and in a devastating, violent way, daily. And I think that it is a time to lock in more than recede.”

— Jennifer Welch, Co-host of "I've Had It" podcast

“And I worry not only about what comes after Trump, how much more diabolical — because Trump is dumb. He doesn't really care about policy, he doesn't care about people. He wants to make money and be on the, you know – he just wants to have his face everywhere. What comes after him?”

— Angie "Pumps" Sullivan, Co-host of "I've Had It" podcast

“They might be smarter. They might be even more diabolical and care about it like a Stephen Miller as the actual man in power. Then I worry about the youth, the people that are so used to Trump's theatrics and the lying. Like, what [are] their expectations of a politician?”

— Angie "Pumps" Sullivan, Co-host of "I've Had It" podcast

“There is something worse than Trump, and it's younger, and like you said, it's more diabolical.”

— Jennifer Welch, Co-host of "I've Had It" podcast

The takeaway

The concerns raised by the podcast hosts underscore the broader uncertainty and unease around the future direction of the Republican party and the potential for an even more ideologically committed and effective conservative leader to emerge in the wake of Trump's presidency.