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Giuliani and Podcaster Spread Epstein Conspiracy Theory
Former NYC mayor claims Epstein's death in prison was 'highly unlikely' to be a suicide.
Published on Feb. 3, 2026
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Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, told conservative commentator Benny Johnson that he believes it is 'highly unlikely' that convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in prison, contrary to the U.S. government's findings. Giuliani, who was a personal attorney for former President Donald Trump, shared his opinion on Johnson's podcast, claiming he has inside knowledge of the Metropolitan Correctional Center where Epstein died in 2019.
Why it matters
Giuliani's comments add to the ongoing conspiracy theories surrounding Epstein's death, which have been repeatedly debunked by official investigations. As a former high-profile public figure, Giuliani's statements carry weight and could further spread misinformation about the case.
The details
During the podcast, Johnson asked Giuliani about Epstein's death, saying 'You built that prison, didn't you?' Giuliani corrected him, noting that the Metropolitan Correctional Center was opened in 1975, long before he became mayor. However, Giuliani said his opinion was informed by his familiarity with the facility, claiming he likely put a 'record number' of people in the prison.
- Jeffrey Epstein died in April 2019 at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan.
- Giuliani made his comments on Benny Johnson's podcast on Monday, February 2, 2026.
The players
Rudy Giuliani
The former mayor of New York City and personal attorney for former President Donald Trump.
Benny Johnson
A conservative commentator and podcaster who interviewed Giuliani.
Jeffrey Epstein
A convicted sex offender who died in prison in 2019.
Kash Patel
The current FBI Director, who previously promoted Epstein conspiracy theories.
What they’re saying
“I have to disagree with my good friends here who came to the conclusion [Epstein killed himself]. I find it highly unlikely that you could commit suicide in that prison.”
— Rudy Giuliani, Former Mayor of New York City (Benny Johnson's Podcast)
The takeaway
Giuliani's comments highlight the ongoing spread of conspiracy theories surrounding Epstein's death, despite official investigations concluding it was a suicide. As a former high-profile public figure, Giuliani's statements could further fuel misinformation and undermine public trust in the justice system.


